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John, got your point, good one!
The note off for the "legato" notes is sent only upon stopping Octopus – and basically leaving all the work in between to the synth, if you want.
Will look into a way to make it work the way you suggested. Right now this feels like a bit of work, but it would help if you Could rate this from a priority perspective (from 1 to 3). That will help us channel it better.
Thanks!

Gabriel

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ripe wrote:

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Now, from the manual and your response I gather it isn’t possible to directly enter the LEN value in the matrix? Currently it must be entered using the encoder (?)

Correct.
I have put it on the list of additions, there is no technical reason why you should not be able to do it as you described it.

(P.S.: just back from vacation, sorry for the delay in getting back to you)

Post edited by: gseher, at: 2007/08/20 11:55

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OK guys – seems like the storyboard is up for renovation, so bear with us and watch the space!

Also, yes John, the sync mechanism of choice for Octopus is indeed MIDI Clock and not MTC (MIDI Time Code). Apologies again.

Gabriel

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On the Octopus the length of a step is adjusted to a 1/192 level.
Currently, in STEP zoom mode you would use the LEN encoder to adjust it to the desired value.
It is not a big deal to enable matrix-entry for it, hence allowing direct key presses. Following that model, you would double-click to enter the values of 1/16ths, and single click to enter the value of 1/192ths.
With 3 consecutive key presses in the row you may be able to jump between any value in the range (1/192 to 191/192).
In terms of representation, the start of the note is always denoted by the first column in the matrix – and you always have a visual reference of what step you are editing, given in the POS row.
Hope this helps!

Gabriel

Post edited by: gseher, at: 2007/08/12 05:50

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Hi miditeur,
I have tried the scenario you describe but could not (yet?) reproduce the problem.
Also, I am using OS 1.02. Now – a few things we may want to try:

– can you please check the page length parameters for the chained pages? It may be that somehow they got offset.
– can you check if the problem persists with no track chaining and and only normal track clock (multiplier 1)?
– can you possibly upgrade to OS 1.02? Not entirely sure if that will solve it, but as I mentioned, it has no problems here.

Gabriel

PS. to get the .elf file of the OS you may want to use the provided link of the .mid file and change the ending to .syx

Post edited by: gseher, at: 2007/07/30 16:27

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To avoid misunderstandings: the "all controllers off" is a message, conveyed by using CC 121.
While the trigger is well-defined (CC 121) the implementation is up to the device manufacturer, so that each device can react meaningfully to the message.
Therefore, we are not talking about sending a zero value for each of the 127 CCs on a given channel. Hope this helps to clarify a bit.

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hmm.. on my MBP it goes into Grid mode!
— eehh.. I mean it zooms out of the current window and lets you look at all open windows from a bird’s eye view, and you can select which one you go to.
I thought this is some OSX universal functionality (on f9), but apparently not?
g.

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Yes I understand what you mean. I forgot to precise that I was meaning a fixed-pitch note. As if I was pressing a key on a keyboard for a long time. Pitch bending can happen while the voice is sounding as would any other CC. Hope this helps.

OK – I also forgot to mention that pitch bend will of course bend the whole channel, not only that one note.
What I still wonder about is – if you want to have notes that long, why are you concerned with losing resolution (slowing down the track tempo)?
After all, you are saying you need 1/192 resolution for notes longer than 4 bars.
Is that really the case?

After all, step lengths are defined in units of 1/16ths up to effectively 16/16ths.
A way around this could be to have the length increase over-linearly after passing a certain threshold, such as 8/16th for example.. That means, a mapping similar to the following:

Length value Played length
1 to 8/16 1 to 8/16th
9/16 10/16
10/16 12/16
11/16 16/16
12/16 32/16
13/16 40/16
14/16 48/16
15/16 64/16

As you see, here again you lose resolution, but this time in terms of the length, not the startpoint. So it all boils down to what you are after..

Anyone else any thoughts on this?
G.

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Hi Xavier,

the "all notes off" (cc 123) as you suggested will come into effect by pressing stop when the sequencer is both stopped and master. Watch the space.
Also, anyone pros/cons/preferences for an "all controllers off" (cc 121) tirade to go with that?

The legato thing is more involved.
Especially when you say you want two or more steps with no note off or on in-between them. Problem is, in MIDI a note is defined by at least its note on message – so by that token you would have no way to trigger later notes – well, unless you were pitch bending, I guess.
That may get messy and unprecise (since pitch bend interpretation on the synth is adjustable and not hard-defined), but maybe that’s the way to go?

Gabriel

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Actually I only switched to OSX just recently, and I must say, I have no clue what I have been doing all this time before.. I should have believed my wife (long time OSX user..)
Must disagree with the last sentence there though
I really like using F9 for that purpose, which is not only a tactile experience, but produces a result that’s yet to be matched.
g

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This means that you have 1.0x.
Reboot the machine holding ESC pressed and you will enter the system mode. There you will see the number readout, which should be 100 (red 100).

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Simply read out the number.
OS v1.02 will show 102: Red 100, green 2

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