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Oh well, I am installing 14308 again. At least that will make me a better instrument in the development.
The idea of strum phrases sounds very good – and useful – i guess this would be sort of like a faux arpeggiator that you find in many synths these days…
the only problem may be in no negative strum levels – i don’t really use that feature myself, but i can see how others might find it very useful to have both ‘forwards’ and ‘backwards’ strumming.
Post edited by: machina, at: 2008/08/20 04:13
It was OS 14308 that I kept crashing. So I went back to 14111 and I have only crashed that once.
As far as I remember the crashes were very "all over the place", hard to say anything meaningful about them.
Quote:a/ it causes the any tracks that are muted to become unmuted and vice versa (i.e. the normal page function of the MUT occurs) although you are simply trying to skip a few steps on an active trackNever liked that either. Let´s hope for a fix.
I don´t have any problem with the way steps are muted though. But I can see the benefit of your idea if you want go nuts with step muting.
That sounds ok.
What I was thinking is whether we could start using steps as modifiers of track buttons. So you grab a track and a step (let’s say the first step [first column] ) and when you use POS you get a different flavor of POS.
Basically using the steps as shift alt and control for a track…
For example the Pitch knob could move in fifths if you grab a track and the first step and in fourths if you grab the track and the second step (even if a shortcut to pitches is already provided by the pitch circle).But I don’t know if this would break some existing paradigm.
dunno…
I don’t have my Oct. machine, Gabriel’s method would work fine as well, I didn’t know that the mute was a status bit…
I thought that when you mute and unmute you "loose" the step status that was there before the mute (I haven’t been at the studio in a month and I don’t have access to my Octopus so I’m likely making this up).The key combination is a bit unhortodox as it mixes a track property operation with selecting step… but it depends on what everyone else thinks
Thanks, /R
don’t you wish the Octopus had shift + alt + control buttons
One feature I’d like to see implemented in the Octopus is clearly the wall clock.
Seriously, I’d have to think what would be portable to the Octopus paradigm. I’ll be back with that.
robert wrote:
What if we provide a way where where only the muted steps are rotated?[/quote]That’d be it…
I had it for only a week did one jam with it, but didn’t have my trusty Ploytec 34one tap tempo pedal so it was not that exciting.
The truth is that I would have got a Nemo if I hadn’t an Octopus already (for a while I thought of getting a Nemo on top of the Octopus).
It’s limited, limiting, the sounds are average the effects are bad [master effects only. reverb, chorus, flange], some useful stuff is hidden in menus such as the Octopus Align equivalent, duration is set for all notes, no accents on steps, no internal mono mode (no glide), neither CC control nor controllers over the sound (ADSR, Filter etc..) … and so on.. The sampling is there, totally limited [not even pitch up or down of samples], with unusually slow load times as in all Yamaha sampling products, but it’s there (in theory 3 banks of 16 1 second stereo samples).
But it has amazing usability and ergonomics, it’s totally intuitive, it’s fun. You pick it up and it’s hard to let it go, the fact that it has little speakers and it’s battery operated means that you can just pick it up and use it. I have no interest in using it as a controller, for me it’s just for the sheer fun of picking up a different instrument to play.
You are always likely to come up with something interesting (clearly within the given limits of fixed durations and dynamics).
One feature I particularly like is that you can record an improvised performance directly on the SD card and play it back, which means that you don’t need to be always connected to another machine.
It is hard to put a bit of dynamics to patterns since "pages" (blocks in TO lingo) must be switched manually and scale selection is tucked under a menu shared by all "pages". There are some utilities to copy pages and tracks (layers) literally on the fly, but I think you need some time to develop a technique to use that live.
In fact most parameters are shared by all pages, and it is really notes data that change across "pages". It is somewhat easier to do slo-mo abstract pattern with the bouncing balls and the random pages
Clearly it’s Yamaha, so it can be used as a wall clock and can play one of your song as hour chime or alarm clock (really).
If you got some cash to spare it’s worth the fun, even so I’m still thinking in the back of my mind that I could have almost got a polyevolver with that money.
I don’t think is going to be a source of eternal inspiration, in a year once I’ll be done with it my kids will love to take over (and they will let my Octopus alone).
If you have any questions, ask… (if Gabriel and Marcel don’t mind).
firefox 3 doesn’t like the board :blink: , I’m getting double posts.
Post edited by: zinoff, at: 2008/08/12 23:30
I think what you’re proposing is slightly different (at least from my sleepy perspective)…
you would need to lock the mutes and POS the steps including those steps that are "below" the muted steps…
That is from a track like this
X.XX.XX.XXXX.X.X
I wasn’t thinking of rotating
MM[XX.XX.XXXX.X]MM
MM[X.XX.XXXX.XX]MM
MM[.XX.XXXX.XXX]MM
MM[XX.XXXX.XXX.]MM
MM[X.XXXX.XXX.X]MM
and so on….Instead by sliding a window over the track (and looping the length of the window), let’s say of 12 steps I could get the following patterns at runtime:
[X.XX.XX.XXXX].X.X
X[.XX.XX.XXXX.]X.X
X.[XX.XX.XXXX.X].X
X.X[X.XX.XXXX.X.]X
X.XX[.XX.XXXX.X.X]I hope it is more clear now.
Cheers,
/Rgseher wrote:
Quote:Actually this behaviour could be enabled in the Octopus code in the sense that skipped steps would be locked to their respective positions. Then, changing the POS of a track would produce the result you describe. I wonder how everyone feels about this.
GabrielSounds fine to me!
Actually this behaviour could be enabled in the Octopus code in the sense that skipped steps would be locked to their respective positions. Then, changing the POS of a track would produce the result you describe. I wonder how everyone feels about this.
Gabriel
