[gseher]

For polyrhythms we’d really need the track speed multiplier to be modulatable and then we would have great fun, let me tell you…

I find it hard to believe that modulation of step length would disappear just like that, it’s essential to funkify synth lines and play with "gated" chords. Let’s hear from Gabriel what he has in mind….

Cheers,
/R

[gseher]

I may be minority here…anyway

What happens to the track LEN factor if we reallocate it to the track length?
That is how do we go about playing with notes duration quickly?

Could we still shorten the track from the head instead of tail? and skip steps?

[gseher]

let’s not create a new omnichord…

[gseher]

why not implement all three modes?

o’clock, immediate and immediate-synced

correct me if i’m wrong but in grid mode you could press/hold a page button and use 1 of the track select buttons to indicate/switch between the modes.

so for example with a page pressed, track selector 1 green=o’clock, orange=immediate-synced and red=immediate

[gseher]

Hello, thanks Rachel for bringing this up! Also I wanted to know what OSC is. I googled OSC and found out that it stands for "Open sound control" and an introduction can be found at this address: http://opensoundcontrol.org/introduction-osc

What I can see some hardware gear is using OSC-protocol – like the control surface "Lemur" from Jazz Mutant.

By the way…nice set-up! I use Octopus as master clock in my totally midi-fied studio. :cheer:

Bo

Post edited by: Sbay, at: 2008/11/20 13:18

[gseher]

In that case I would question whether the immediate switching as it is should not be developed into the proposed switching mode – which is a lot more fun btw

I propose further to have only one switching mode (on Nemo, for Octopus tbd) as follows:
– when bank is not playing, activating a page in it will have that page starting on the next "1".
– when the bank is playing, activating a page will work immediately and pick up the global locator for its tracks.

[gseher]

This is what I want out of it too,
except anything I do has to be reproducible at some level, but I also want a little unpredictability
but not chaos.

rachel

[gseher]

Can someone please describe what OSC is or provide
a reference?

I am also an analogue head – I’ve got lots of
mono synths and modular gear, that I have tended
to drive using the Frostwave Quad CV interface.
I also use MIDI clock extensively, so my evil plan
is to use the Octopus as Clock Master, send the
clock all over the place to various arpeggiators
and triggers. The Octopus would also be my sequencer
now, with Logic just acting as a sync’d up audio
recorder and MIDI router. So the big thing with
MIDI for me is totally reliable and solid sync.

Perhaps instead of trying to refit a MIDI/CV into
the Octopus,perhaps that USB port could be used for
something and a 10 channel CV/Gate/Sync breakout
box could be designed. I haven’t got my Octopus
yet – it comes next week but how is the breakout box
on it attached by that flexi pipe? There seems to
be plenty of room to stick another output box
on there?

I am really getting more excited about this.
I can’t wait and I am almost beside myself
with anticipation when I finally have this thing
driving my mono synths :woohoo:

Oh, and in case you are wondering, Octopus will probably go where OSCar is, or perhaps where MiniMoog
is. Octopus is exactly the same size as a MiniMoog.
On my desk (obscured) is a Moog Phatty. I was thinking of putting Octopus there, but it won’t fit.

rachel

Post edited by: rachel, at: 2008/11/20 10:51

[gseher]

gseher wrote:

Quote:

Thanks everyone for the feedback.
Using the LEN encoder on a track currently modifies the LEN factor the track. It looks like the only way to do it is separate more rigurously between the actual attribute value and the factors for the step offsets.
So bottom line: bring Track LEN encoder back to modifying the track length, and make sure it can be modulated
Going back to the whiteboard now..
Cheers, Gabriel

Occasionally people ask on various forums for comparisons between various sequencers….one of the things that I will mention is the incredible level of user support that Genoqs provides. I’m not sure that I’ve ever seen better. (Colin Fraser is great too, actually).

[gseher]

fairplay wrote:

Quote:

gseher wrote:

Quote:

the musical value points you feel you should be getting, but think that MIDI does not deliver

…resolution…

…nice – besides OSC-support – would be to have CV-outs…maaaany of them ;o)

…at the moment I sending MIDI to an MCV24 (Doepfer) and two MT-16s (Analogue Solutions), which convert it all together into 56 CV-outs…

Wasn’t there some talk early on about a midi/cv add on to the Octopus? or is that an hallucination?

Most of my synths at this point are semi-modular and modular analogs – that’s one thing that I don’t feel subjectively with midi sequencers going through an external midi/cv device as much as with a pure analog sequencer – there is an immediacy with the connection between, say, my modcan 54b and my analog stuff, or even with my sam-16, that just isn’t there with a midi sequencer. But, all things being equal, I much prefer working within the analog domain as much as possible than with midi.

Of course, there are also things that you can do with analog sequencers that you can’t with midi – audio rate sequencing, for instance….and, their hardware seems to be designed more with certain types of interaction in mind – individual gate outputs with switching, sequential switching of audio (sam-16 is very cool for this), combination of vertical and horizontal sequencing (tkb is great for this). What am I getting at? Not sure, but I’d love to see Genoqs make an analog sequencer with the same kind of innovative spirit that went into the octopus.

[gseher]

that would be great.

strange that almost no sequencers have this possibility. the machinedrum does not..

[gseher]

Thanks everyone for your replies. Adam, thanks to the thread pointer. Some neat stuff in there! I decided to start this thread after getting a separate question (not the first one) about OSC on Octopus, which makes me wonder if people really have a musical need, or a technical need they are looking to satisfy. If it is musical, I’d like to know all about it

[gseher]

Thanks everyone for the feedback.
Using the LEN encoder on a track currently modifies the LEN factor the track. It looks like the only way to do it is separate more rigurously between the actual attribute value and the factors for the step offsets.
So bottom line: bring Track LEN encoder back to modifying the track length, and make sure it can be modulated
Going back to the whiteboard now..
Cheers, Gabriel

[gseher]

The only thing you need to do in order to get the layout you need is just build it into a page, which you keep empty but use as a template that you pull in via copy/paste. If you come up with something cool, let us all know – and maybe the preset of the next OS will be different
Cheers,
Gabriel

[gseher]

Hi Adam, sorry for the quiet.
Assuming you have the OS version 1.60 installed. what is the subversion of the 1.6 OS you have? If it is .27 please install the one on the server now – which is .32 and try again.
This was an issue that I could not reproduce on .27 any more, but then found something in the code that didn’t look as strong as it should have. It is fixed in .32. If you are seeing this with .32 we should talk in more detail. Please let us know how it goes.
Cheers,
Gabriel

PS. The subversion number is shown in row 0 when you are looking at the "screen" displaying the version number.

Post edited by: gseher, at: 2008/11/18 23:42

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