[gseher]

Who else could help us with more video material?
We will put our demo videos we have shown on
our old webpage back online in the next days
but we are quite busy at the moment with various
related tasks and we would very much appreciate
any help we can get.

[gseher]

Hey I assume from your description you meant that the track tempo is set *1/16* (not x16). Otherwise your track would play 128 times while page length is 8!

Without changing the way octopus works, you could just make the track tempo 1/8 and spread the track across two pages, it would be a workaround though.

Maybe a way that this could be handled (in future versions) is to designate track 0 as the "master" track of a page, so whatever tempo this track is set to, serves to define the page length "multiplier" used in GRID mode.

cheers
JK

[gseher]

Thanks Gabriel,

I notice from the makefile that main.o isn’t made for "make all" is it not required? This is what give the libc error.

I generated just the octopus.elf using "make all" I get the following file:

http://www.socialentropy.com/studio/octopus.elf

If you can cross check it with what is generated on your side (maybe?)

I compared this to the syx of OS 1.02 and it looks to be the same, minus the formatting for MIDI sysex.

The download link you give for the USB updating PDF doesn’t work (it redirects to main genoQs.com page). The same thing happens for the future music review PDF you have linked to on the website reviews section.

Thanks
JK

[gseher]

Also, I notice that making the "main" object file fails for me, it needs a libc. Did you compile a libc for the specific ARM in the octopus?

Thanks
JK

[gseher]

Gabriel, Thanks! that fixed things right up. I will go through the whole process setting up the environment again and generate some screenshots and documentation tonight.

I can generate the octopus.elf file now, but from this point I’m not sure where to go, how is the elf packaged up as MIDI syx?

Is there an easier way to load the executable using the serial port?

cheers
JK

[gseher]

No problem, although the guys over at Matrixsynth didn’t seem to like the demo too much.

http://matrixsynth.blogspot.com/2007/08/genoqs-octopus-demonstration.html

They said it looked too complicated and slow. I don’t think they realize that I was trying to demonstrate the immediacy of the Octopus.

In the time I composed the melody from starting the octopus, most people would still be booting a computer, and/or setting up a DAW session.

cheers
JK

[gseher]

Sure, I can write up a basic how-to for setting up the environment. I assume from the file paths in the source that you moved original development from cygwin/windows to Linux? Let me know where it to download the eCos base, and I will give it a shot.

I actually reverse engineered the Doepfer Schaltwerk to rewrite the OS, but the hardware/processor (8051) really were not capable enough for what I wanted to do. I am excited for the possibilities with the Octopus!

thanks
JK

[gseher]

Great !
Thanks a lot for this video.
It’s really great to have a live progamming session with the Octopus.

Best Regards,

[gseher]

In the illustration, you would see the steps in the matrix as they are now, until you "grab" a step.

Once a step is grabbed, it would show the length in steps using green LEDs and anywhere it overlaps an existing step it would show as an orange LED.

While you have the step grabbed, the length could be modified using the encoder (as it works now) or the length could be selected by clicking a second step to designate the end of the note. The green LEDS would now extend (or contract) to show that the length is now set to the new length. When the step is released (ungrabbed) it reverts to showing just the single step where the note is triggered, the normal matrix view.

Hope that clears it up. This also takes care of the fingered legato because you could just set a step to "overlap" another by grabbing a step and then clicking the step you wish to legato (?) with.

cheers
JK

Post edited by: ripe, at: 2007/08/20 23:21

[gseher]

sorry, also it would display the modulus to get to the closest 1/16th step if the step had a specific 1/192 value.

cheers
JK

Post edited by: ripe, at: 2007/08/20 16:39

[gseher]

Gabriel,

Thanks for the reply. I tested out the legato this weekend and it is just a simple matter of clicking the note length to overlap with the next note. I don’t think it would be worth the trouble to implement it as a specific function (slide).

There are a couple of other wishes I would give high priority

1. Step note entry should mirror the track parameter entry in PAGE mode, for example if I push (and hold) a step while in PAGE mode, the note PITCH should show up on the circle, right now there is no indication of the PITCH unless you zoom in on the step. Additionally, the other parameters could be displayed on the matrix, but that may intrude with playability.

2. This is similar to my other posted wish regarding step LEN entry, in PAGE mode it would be awesome to enter note length by pressing and holding a step and then pressing a second step (in the same row) to set the note length. Maybe this could work in conjunction with wish #1, where the length of a step would show up when you press and hold a step (instead of showing all the other step parameters in the matrix). But the length would be in 1/16th (steps) from from the current position of the step being modified.

maybe I should open a separate post for this.

cheers
JK

Post edited by: ripe, at: 2007/08/20 16:35

[gseher]

OK, I uploaded a video of me programming "rock your body" into the octopus. I used some tricky track chaining to play it in sequence. check it out

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-J8xTdoGB8g

cheers
John K.

[gseher]

i do love these step events though i myself find sometimes i am not fully sure what the machine is doing. I think step events is a really powerfull feature , especially on direction and track position etc.With a bit of feed and effect from one track to 3 or 4 others it can get very ‘ non
repetative ‘.Programmable directions also never fails to make me smile and choosing these via step events.The fun never seems to end.Step events to modulate Midi channnel ! i hadnt thought of that……

[gseher]

I like it very much. Good idea to update it.
Pieter

[gseher]

I remember that document being quite useful when I first got my machine so it’s probably worth putting a new version up on the website… I think it’s pretty useful to new users. I guess nobody has complained as a lot of us here have had our octopii for sometime and no longer need it…

machina

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