Phrase ‘serious’ mode. Interested?

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  • #1075

    Robert van der Kamp
    Participant

    Hi all,

    when I developed the code for the phrase feature introduced in v1.60 of the OS, not all (but most) of the features made it into the OS. I always kept my full mode (jokingly called the ‘serious’ phrase mode) available as a patch, to be applied on the lasted released official OS.

    I’m now considering to make this patch available to you guys, if interested.

    The main differences are these:

    1. Instead of 3 banks of phrases, you get a full 16 banks of 16 phrases, filled with many more presets than available in the official OS version.

    2. Direct phrase bank and phrase selection by (double) clicking the matrix keys on the GRV row in STEP mode. Since there’s now a massive 16 banks available, you need this to quickly select a phrase bank (category) and phrase.

    3. Phrase style (strum up/down/random phrase up/down/random wobble) available in STEP mode as a step attriibute. This allows you to select a preset up going phrase and turn it into a random phrase for this step only.

    4. Small UI changes.

    Regarding the phrase pool, the extra, additional 13 phrase banks are located ‘after’ the standard 3 phrase banks provided by the officiai OS, so applying the patch should not brake any existing songs that depend on the standard preset phrases.

    My plan is to eventually fill most of the 16 banks with presets, divided into categories like: delay, pitched delay, riffs, snare patterns, kick patterns, bass patterns, pitch wobbles, velo wobbles, etc. If any of you would like to make preset contributions, that would be great. Of course its fun to use a pitched phrase on drums and see what happens. ;)

    Let me know if there’s any interest for this. Could be a personal glitch that I want as many phrase presets avaiable than I can count. I use them to inspire me. Select a step, scan through the phrase pool, tweak the phrase speed, and there you go.

    – Robert

    #2823

    YES! "Serious"-ly interested here! Sounds great. I agree with you about taking inspiration from the phrase banks.

    Let me know if you need any help writing up or proofing the user notes for this.

    #2824

    Adam
    Participant

    I would also like this.

    #2829

    duncan
    Participant

    make it so.
    :-)

    d.

    #2830

    Angus Byrne
    Participant

    I only seem to be getting two banks of phrases! The lights turn orange for the third bank but there appears to be no effect on the steps. Am I missing something obvious?

    #2832

    Robert van der Kamp
    Participant

    Okay then, enough interest to get the ‘serious’ patch out of the door!

    I will fill the the preset pool with a number of new phrases that I have yet to create, before making the patch available, enough to define all the categories I had in mind.

    I will also add the needed documentation in the reference manual I’m working on. (The ref manual was the actual trigger that led me here.)

    Cheers,
    Robert

    #2833

    Robert van der Kamp
    Participant

    Benny Sugar wrote:

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    I only seem to be getting two banks of phrases! The lights turn orange for the third bank but there appears to be no effect on the steps. Am I missing something obvious?

    I think the last (3rd) bank in the preset pool is comprised of ‘wobble’ phrases. These only subtly wobble stuff like STA and VEL attributes.

    A wobble phrase can seriously add life to you track while staying subtle. Select a ton of steps in a track while playing (e.g. a hihat pattern) and scan through the wobbles to see how the ‘feel’ changes. Like all phrases, a wobble phrase can have random play mode, to make the tweaks less predictable.

    Robert

    #2836

    Angus Byrne
    Participant

    robert wrote:

    Quote:
    Benny Sugar wrote:

    Quote:
    I only seem to be getting two banks of phrases! The lights turn orange for the third bank but there appears to be no effect on the steps. Am I missing something obvious?

    I think the last (3rd) bank in the preset pool is comprised of ‘wobble’ phrases. These only subtly wobble stuff like STA and VEL attributes.

    A wobble phrase can seriously add life to you track while staying subtle. Select a ton of steps in a track while playing (e.g. a hihat pattern) and scan through the wobbles to see how the ‘feel’ changes. Like all phrases, a wobble phrase can have random play mode, to make the tweaks less predictable.

    Robert

    Thanks Robert – I’ll away and investigate this phenomenon.

    Cheers

    #2839

    Adam
    Participant

    Robert, could you please email me at aadaam [at] mac [dot] com? I see no way to PM on these boards.

    #2888

    Robert van der Kamp
    Participant

    Adam, is that email address correct?

    #2890

    Adam
    Participant

    It sure isn’t! Ha ha. aadamm, not aadaam

    #2891

    matt hillier
    Participant

    this sounds interesting robert , i am slowly diving into this side.

    #2837

    Wil
    Participant

    Hey Robert,

    Sounds great I like the phrases, but the official implementation is too limited. If possible could you send me the serious phrase patch to pushtin_cat[at]yahoo[dot com

    Its a great module

    many thanks!

    Wilson

    #2825

    Dieter Herten
    Participant

    YES, I´m very interested in getting this serious phrase OS patch.

    Thank you for you engagment like I do with the teaching videos.

    #2826

    zahir manek
    Participant

    definitely interested. how do i get ahold of the patch?

    thanks

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